Comments on: The Backlash Against Google Wave

By: Google Wave: Real-time trouble and the persistent belief in tools : crisscrossed blog

Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:36:45 +0000

[...] something new. But I am not sure that is the way forward because of one other reason: bandwidth! Jon Goshier outlines this point nicely: “Of course, I have to point out that all this real-time communication stuff only matters to [...]

By: wigglesworth

wigglesworth — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:58:59 +0000

I disagree that Bing looks like Google.
I get a different feel from Bing than I do from Google.

So far that feeling also engenders a positive outlook with Bing's results.

I'll keep using Bing for a while — Google isn't the only game in town.

By: sid parmar

sid parmar — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:30:55 +0000

I wonder if local hosting is at all possible especially on the first versions!

By: twia, news, ted, 2009 - Appfrica

twia, news, ted, 2009 - Appfrica — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 09:04:16 +0000

[...] that hacked version my … Kerry Carlwrinkle: I’ve been looking around for articles similar to … Global Voices Online » Internet in North Korea, Nokia’s Ovi Store, Google Wave and Tech …: [...] entrepreneur Jonathan Gosier at Appfrica a… Courtney: Wow congratulations Jon!… A.L: [...]

By: Global Voices Online » Internet in North Korea, Nokia’s Ovi Store, Google Wave and Tech Happenings

Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:18:30 +0000

[...] entrepreneur Jonathan Gosier at Appfrica and based in Uganda isconcerned about the usability of the product in low bandwidth situations. Of course, I have to point out that all this real-time communication stuff only matters to the [...]

By: Weregoose

Weregoose — Sat, 30 May 2009 13:27:39 +0000

It looks like what I was quoting got stripped from my reply… Anywho, keep on writing.

By: jongos

jongos — Sat, 30 May 2009 12:21:59 +0000

I should have done my research. It turns out Google's already somewhat answered this problem through federation which would allow anyone to run Wave from their own server, sort of like how e-mail can be run from a server. This would mean I could run it locally on a server that results in faster use for me and my staff. Interesting. Attempting to watch the video now. I'll write a follow up post after I've looked into it more.

By: tdh09

tdh09 — Sat, 30 May 2009 07:25:52 +0000

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Of course, I have to point out that all this real-time communication stuff only matters to the fraction of people on the planet with good bandwidth. Here in Uganda, I’m so glad when an email actually makes it out of the queue that I don’t even bother to think about ‘rewinding’ conversations and dragging and dropping video! In all seriousness, it’s this reduction in basic utility for all users that worries me.
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I doubt that there will be significant reduction in basic utility. The client side enterface is built in html 5, and designed to work offline. During the demo, an iphone was used while it was not connected to the network. Sure, some of the features won't be available offline (the spell checker and translator, for example), but for the most part, it should work with an intermittent connection as well as or better than google talk, gmail, or docs.

By: Weregoose

Weregoose — Sat, 30 May 2009 05:59:01 +0000

If you had Waved that, I could strip out the apostrophe from the second-to-last word there, proving that it can indeed help make the 'net a better place.

By: jke

jke — Sat, 30 May 2009 00:57:30 +0000

First thing I thought about when I saw this for the first time: how much bandwidth does it require and will it also work offline? (resp. "If it works in Africa…" etc.)